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What do we do with the old wineskin?
March 12, 2013

What do we do with the Old Wineskin?

“And He was also telling them a parable: โ€œNo one tears a piece of cloth from a new garment and puts it on an old garment; otherwise he will both tear the new, and the piece from the new will not match the old. And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; otherwise the new wine will burst the skins and it will be spilled out, and the skins will be ruined. But new wine must be put into fresh wineskins. And no one, after drinking old wine wishes for new; for he says, โ€˜The old is good enough.โ€™โ€” Luke 5:36-39 (NASB) also found in Mark 2:21-22 & Matthew 9:16-18

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I read this passage last week and meditated on it. The first question that came to my mind is “What do we do with the Old Wineskin?” In Singapore’s culture, most of us will probably just throw it away. I think Jesus is saying much more than throwing away the old. I looked up a little more about wineskin and learnt that wineskin is usually made of goatskin with the insides lined with pitch to waterproof it. If wineskins are made of leather, then logically, it should not be thrown away as leather products usually last for a long time. It does not make sense to keep having to make new wineskins for the new wine. The reason why Old wineskins cannot hold new wine is because they become brittle and lose their elasticity. As new wine ferments, gases are created and it expands the wineskin. The old wineskin being less elastic will eventually burst because of the pressure inside and the new wine wasted. Interestingly, the word “fresh” is used to describe the wineskin used to contain new wine and not “new”. A fresh wineskin can be a new wineskin but it can also refer to an old wineskin that has been reconditioned. A reconditioned wineskin is as supple as new and is able to hold new wine. To recondition it, an old wineskin needs to be cleaned and then soaked in oil. The wineskin is soaked until it is rejuvenated to its supple and soft state to be ready for the new wine. So old wineskins are not thrown away or only being used to hold old wine. It can be made fresh again to hold new wine!

So how does it apply? I find it interesting that Luke acknowledges that old wine is better than new. This is true even till now that old wine is prefered more than new. So this passage does not undermine the old wine, but it is looking at a constant supply of wine, thus the need for fresh wineskins. The new wine in this passage can mean the new covenant and the old wine, the old covenant. This is true but it seems that the richness of this parable brings it beyond to include the new outpourings of God’s move, be it in the change of seasons in an individual, a church, or even at national level.

The next question is how do I apply the reconditioning of the wineskin? Old wineskin does not refer to the physical age of believers. A young person can be rigid and has an extremely fixed mindset that is not open to anything new. Rigid mindset that is inflexible alludes to an old wineskin. Similar to soaking the old wineskin in oil to recondition it, a person can ‘soak’ himself in the presence of God in worship, in the Word and in prayer. This parable is said right after the teaching on fasting, thus this “soaking” should also include fasting in combination of the other spiritual disciplines. It is to allow the Holy Spirit to wash over us over and over again until our hearts and spirits are tenderised to receive new things from God. This means taking time out to be quiet before the Lord. It is to allow God to speak once again, even for Bible passages which we are so familiar with, AFRESH. A reconditioned wineskin is refreshed, flexible, and passionate about the new things that God is doing.

Take for example, if God chooses to do a mighty move among the prostitutes and they start coming to your church services. Maybe some of you will be completely excited about it, and others apprehensive. The church community has not come into much contact with people who are in prostitution depending on the profile of the church members. Their presence can cause much discomfort in that they probably do not dress ‘right’ in church services, their talk is very uncouth and loud, and even the small inconveniences like dirtier restrooms. Yet this is a genuine move of God that requires a fresh wineskin to hold the new wine. A church in the old wineskin may choose to protect its tradition, culture and practices that has been passed from generations and side-lined these very souls that God wants to bring into His saving grace. This new wine begins to burst the old wineskin of the church when they are unable to hold this new wine, eventually breaking the wineskin, the church. The new wine is spilled, with these souls feeling rejected and leave the church. Whereas in the situation of a church that has been reconditioned to be a new wineskin, they are able to accept these ladies without prejudice, understanding what God is doing, and is patient to address their lifestyles and income sources with the unconditional love of Christ to help them start afresh. The new wineskin is not only willing, but proactively thinking of how to minister to this new harvest that God is bringing in. Overtime, this new wine of seekers when they are kept in this fresh wineskin, they will mature with grace and become as enjoyable as the old wine.

The question for myself, and perhaps you too, is whether I am a fresh wineskin for God to pour his new wine. If I am, what is this new wine that God is pouring into my life? If I am not, then it is best that I take time to be quiet before God so that the Holy Spirit can soften my heart and mind.

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42 comments

Ernest Paul says:
October 22, 2015 at 6:09 pm

This thought is quite brilliant. I was doing a little study just now and it cured to me to look up the process of renewing an old wineskin. I got more than enough reading this. Thanks

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phoonies says:
October 22, 2015 at 6:23 pm

? praise the Lord!!

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Glendora Boney says:
October 23, 2016 at 10:00 am

Many times I thought on this scripture and felt that there had to be a deep interpretation , one that I had not quite grasped. Reading this brought the revelations depth that I was seeking. Thank God for this!

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phoonies says:
October 24, 2016 at 1:35 pm

Wow! Thank you for this encouraging note. May the Lord give you more revelations from His Word. =)

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phoonies says:
December 14, 2016 at 7:47 pm

๐Ÿ™‚

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Angelito says:
May 3, 2025 at 9:51 am

GRACIAS SR, DIOS, POR ENCONTRAR SIN BUSCAR ESTO QUE HABRIO MI MENTE, ALMA Y ESPIRITU, TE AMO DIOS MIO, POR ALGO SERA.

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Constantine Hinds says:
October 29, 2015 at 2:02 am

Amen. I am in complete agreement!

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phoonies says:
November 7, 2015 at 11:46 pm

Amen!!! ๐Ÿ™‚

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Paul Guinness says:
November 13, 2015 at 1:11 am

I am pursuing the concept of the ‘new wine’ being the seekers, or the people. I am interested in the idea that it is the people who need a new wineskin (-i.e. flexible and different from the ‘old wineskin’ of the established church), and that they need that wineskin for the process of maturing as believers. This is very different from the traditional interpretation that the new wine is Jesus teaching, or the work of the Holy Spirit.
I would be most interested in hearing more on this, even if it is just to have a name that I can quote as my source!
If you could direct me to any other writing that pursues this theme I would be most interested.
Many thanks

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phoonies says:
November 13, 2015 at 7:27 am

Dear Paul, thank you for taking time to write to me! Appreciate it! Honestly I haven’t come across any writing or material that talks about believers as wine skin. This was a revelation that came when I was meditating on the scripture passage. I do believe in Jesus and the work of the Holy Spirit as new wine as scripture passages have many layers of understanding. Please do share with me if you have more revelations about this though. ?

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phoonies says:
November 13, 2015 at 7:45 am

Hi Paul, just to clarify, in my writing I still see Jesus and the work of the Holy Spirit as the new wine. It is the new wine skin that I extended the imagery to represent believers as we are the temple in which Jesus dwell through the Holy Spirit. In this sense, we are the wine skin. ?

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pastord1202 says:
January 21, 2023 at 9:47 pm

Paul & Phoonies, I too, am doing research about new wineskin and the church. Try looking at “Rethinking the Wineskin; The Practice of the New Testament Church”, Let me know what you all think: [email protected].
Blessings

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Donald-Vicki White says:
February 24, 2018 at 3:51 am

I have heard that old wineskins are also stretched to contain more – is this true?

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Pauline Phoon says:
March 25, 2018 at 5:05 am

Hi Donald,
I am not an expert in wineskins but I do know that for old wineskins to restore its stretchability, they need to be soaked in oil to be reconditioned. Old wineskins lose their ability to stretch, just like old leather that are dried up, and if they are stretched without being conditioned, they break. This is the reason why they cannot contain new wine, which gives out a lot of gases and requires the wineskin to stretch with the increase of gases within. Hope I answer your question. ๐Ÿ™‚

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Meg H says:
August 31, 2019 at 3:27 pm

May Jesus Christ himself pour out a tremendous blessing of the fresh fire of his Spirit upon your life. Thank you so much for sharing this revelation. I have been truly blessed.

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Pauline Phoon says:
August 31, 2019 at 4:12 pm

God is good!! May the Lord continue to renew us to hold new wine! =)

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Joy says:
October 18, 2019 at 2:39 am

Wow! I was just pondering what the heck is done with old wine skin and a quick google search brought me here. I believe your insight is spot on. Keep on soaking!

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Tamar Amutha Suppiah says:
February 18, 2020 at 1:44 pm

As I read, I am receiving new revelations ?. Thanks

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Ozichi says:
February 19, 2020 at 3:13 am

I have been researching old wine skin and new ones for a long time now, and this knowledge is so eye opening and helpful to what God has been trying to teach me. God bless you

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Denise Myers says:
February 23, 2020 at 9:23 pm

I loved this article. It is fresh revelation on old and new wine skins. We can apply this to “why some people, churches, and nations, have not experienced revival. God always moving in a fresh new way and we must be ready and conditioned to receive the new move of God.

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Christina T says:
February 29, 2020 at 1:07 am

Hi! I was wondering if you have an original source for this process or if this is a theory/revelation of yours? Thank you so much!

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Pauline Phoon says:
March 18, 2020 at 11:27 pm

Hi Christina, I haven’t read anything that is similar to what I have written here. So there is no original source that I know of. It is very much a revelation that God gave me with the many questions that I have. I also read up on the natural processes of how old wine skin is rejuvenated.

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Christina says:
March 20, 2020 at 10:14 pm

Hi Pauline!
Thank you for your reply. I was wondering where you read up on the wine skin process? Much appreciated.

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Pauline Phoon says:
March 23, 2020 at 8:06 pm

Hi Christina,
I can’t locate the site(s) where I found the information as it has been quite a number of years. The original word doc file with the reference was wiped out when my computer crashed.
Most of the modern sites do not recommend reconditioning old leather wineskin (Spanish know them as Botas) as not worth the trouble.
You can search how to tenderise old leather and the most common traditional method is to apply olive or coconut oil although modern solution is leather conditioner. Oil is one of the key ingredients in leather conditioner as well.

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Tomasi Jale says:
June 15, 2020 at 7:40 am

Much appreciated…. Detailed and to the point…. A big malo vakalevu from Fiji

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Pauline Phoon says:
August 8, 2020 at 1:43 pm

Blessings to Fiji!!

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BRENDA PATTERSON says:
January 5, 2021 at 12:15 am

I think that is also represent the law and Grace

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Pauline Phoon says:
January 11, 2021 at 1:39 pm

Yes, I think it can also represent law and grace as you said! =)

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Jordan says:
February 3, 2021 at 2:08 am

Iโ€™ve been in the church my whole life (35 years). Iโ€™m be been really struggling lately and this morning I asked myself honestly โ€œam I just an old worn out wine skinโ€. I knew there had to be a deeper answer then what is commonly given for this parable and thatโ€™s when I stumbled across this blog. THANK YOU! It is so much deeper …. God desire fruit on a continual basis (the wine) if we only had the old wine which is desirable then the party is over so to speak when itโ€™s been all used up. There must be a continual supply and we as the body of Christ must be able to provide a hospitable environment for that new wine even if itโ€™s still a major work in progress (as we all are if we are honest). The answer to my original question is a little more complicated than yes or no….I am an old wine skin, Iโ€™ve been used quite a bit, had to stand up to the sun and rain and dust and wind and everything else we endure as Christians in this life. The key though is that the โ€œnewโ€ wineskin can be an old wineskin that is willing to be reconditioned…. to be cleaned up and all the dirt and debris removed once in awhile (repentance and humility) then renewed in oil (Gods Holy Spirit) and once again become usable to the Master. Iโ€™ve seen far to many Christians recently, continue to turn into old crusty brittle wine skins which takes no effort just a continuation on the current path. Iโ€™m trying to not end up there myself, itโ€™s not easy or comfortable but if we arenโ€™t renewing ourselves then we are just dying…..

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Pauline Phoon says:
March 13, 2021 at 8:11 am

Hi Jordan, I am so encouraged by your sharing! Yes, it is an intentional and constant choice to be renewed. Hope you are soaking in the new oil for new wine to come. =)

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Eliana Ku says:
March 11, 2021 at 1:57 am

This was posted years ago. Yet it’s still here for old wineskins to learn how to be made fresh, for the ever flowing New Wine of CHRIST’s sacrifice, of Holy Spirit’s Wine of Revelations into the Ever Living Word!
I just found it today & am blessed to now know how to be renewable by His Grace! Amen.

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Pauline Phoon says:
March 13, 2021 at 8:13 am

Praise God for the evergreen Word of God! Blessings to you. =)

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Joyce says:
May 10, 2021 at 11:37 am

Powerful revelation..I need to create space for accommodating the new things God is doing in my life &others..

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Pauline Phoon says:
November 24, 2021 at 12:13 am

Creating space is so important but really a challenge in many ways. I am also learning and struggling through this. Let’s keep on growing in this! =)

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Danny Hannan says:
January 10, 2023 at 12:11 pm

Love this! When I was younger I read you don’t put new wine and old wine skins and I was probably just like well yes of course! Only recently had I asked what that means and your writing was a great help in illuminating this. Thank you!

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Pauline Phoon says:
February 13, 2023 at 2:48 pm

Thank you Danny for leaving this message!!! Do share with me your insights too. =)

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pastord1205 says:
January 21, 2023 at 9:57 pm

So, as one who has and is still learning, studying, preaching, I am always open to what people believe, think. But I always let others know, if I do not know, I will find the resource/ reference.
I do have a question though; how can we speak to those of “tradition” indicating they should realize that “Yes, God IS doing a new thing, and in order to receive the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, they may have to open their minds to receive that in which God is doing?” “OUT WITH THE OLD; IN WITH THE NEW”

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Pauline Phoon says:
February 13, 2023 at 2:52 pm

Wow… this is not easy… a situation that I always find myself in and sometimes I don’t do well at it and still learning. I think it is with lotsa love and patience, covered with a lot of prayer. I think it is also to to be guided by the Holy Spirit. Sometimes I do tend to run ahead of God or get too impatient as I think urgent means now, which may not be for God. Sometimes breaking the end goal into smaller bite size steps might help. I pray that the Lord will give you His revelation and heart, and also wisdom.

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cdwahlstrom says:
January 22, 2023 at 12:46 am

See Harold Eberle’s work The Complete Wineskin: Restructuring the Church for the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit.

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Pauline Phoon says:
February 13, 2023 at 2:53 pm

๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

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M says:
January 22, 2025 at 1:44 am

Thanks for the blog post! Great revelation… Btw what website platform do you use? It’s nice!

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Pauline Phoon says:
January 27, 2025 at 9:52 pm

Thank you! I am on WordPress. =)

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